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We've got Ben from Docker talking about well quite frankly we could talk about stuff all day with all
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the new features of Docker desktop and docker desktop enterprise which is a brand new product that Docker
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announced earlier this year at DockerCon and actually even announced it last year.
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Dr Carnie you might like it.
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So it's a little low.
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It's been anticipation has been building.
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So let's talk about it for a minute.
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Like what's the quick.
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OK.
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So we.
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So there's now there's me and make sure understand there's a there's a free version we all know of Docker
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desktop called Docker desktop Community Edition is that right.
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Correct.
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And now there is a new product that is a superset of that called Docker desktop enterprise.
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Yes.
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So tell me a little bit about that.
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Give you that.
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I'm not getting people edging.
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You've got edge as well which is your desktop with slightly more daily not quite daily.
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We'll get back with more edgy features you get things in order for storage.
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So I thought it just went to price the need the ask.
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We had a lot of our customers was coming a version of desktop with supportable.
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And people will we can deploy and have to consider backing on using.
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And along with that can we.
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Can you help us out with some of the common issues.
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The main one being the community addition of Docker she works with the community engine unsurprisingly
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and they're an easy way to work with the enterprise engine.
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Along with that we also look at some of the other main issues people had in trying to get Docker into
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into the enterprise and used by people on their machines.
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I mean look to sort of addressing a few of those through through the enterprise product at the moment
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is sort of enterprise exclusive getting that same set of features.
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We will look at how we can get that out more widely as time goes on as we'd like to find a way to get
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everyone access to these patients.
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Cool.
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And I know that there is a laundry list of new things that are exclusive to Doctor desktop enterprise.
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Like can you pop quiz.
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Can you list them all.
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I hope so.
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I can run through a few and be fun.
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Yeah that'll be great.
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Great.
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Now squinty it'll be on my screen so I'm sharing.
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so let's kick off a couple of them are going to be a bit of an eye test because I forgot to put on accessibility
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mode before we started so in August of enterprise as I was just mentioning we had an ask of how could
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you support in presenting on the desktop.
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And we didn't just want to ship just the enterprise engine on the desktop.
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We know that not everyone's using the special enterprise engine.
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Some people want to use the same machine to move between community work and enterprise work.
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So we came up with the idea of Virgin packs where you can install more than one version of the docker
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engine.
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So Connie I just got the 3.0 engine installed but I have to drive engine or the community engine as
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well that I need this may need to move between them not just results Docker results I'm new engine with
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with the containers that we sort of the images there waiting to be sorted.
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So it was one of the first features of the enterprise that we put in was enabling people to move between
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those engine versions the next which is again kind of focused on the enterprise use case was most people
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when using Docker they can change any settings they want you can change your whole memory your CPE use
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small proxy as demon.
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We had an administrator settings file which has always deployed somewhere that people can access.
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She's kind of a given you can actually lock people can change
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so groups
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It's not like I can now not no longer change the number of years that I'm using my machine.
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The idea being that if you're applying this cross loads and loads machines and enterprise you might
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have some restrictions you might want it to be small portable LEMOULT into notes in a known configuration
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so it's easy for your whole staff to debug.
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We want to scale back people to to lock this down if they want to because as an enterprise feature set.
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So that's the second one.
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And on the same date.
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This is the first time we've had dock a desktop Mac has a peak and took it out of windows and A.I. which
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are kind of more standard packaging formats.
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different patient had given that Islam or be candy and they all sip on Lucky CLIA plugins as well.
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So those findings you mentioned earlier.
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It's one of the flashiest features or the most new face features of enterprise was application designer.
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Now this came from feedback we'd had that's getting started with Duncan getting started with new projects
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with Docker knowing how to particularly get started with compose and then Docker out as well wasn't
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necessarily the easiest thing.
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pre configured templates or a template completed both images and source code that people could design
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templates themselves in an enterprise so that as an enterprise you could set up your sort of set of
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best practice projects for your business to use and then your team if they want to start a new project
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and be guided to start in a certain way.
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maybe we we're going to support only you to or but with all the new spring we are going to react very
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or you can just provide sort of the services and the versions that you want to people can string them
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together instead of a wider more seats they want to know if you want to give people more more flexibility
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did that line scaffolding way up here.
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artefacts onto my machine and I run pass are you going to start up the gap.
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It's going to start up each of those containers and then I can open the project in Visual Studio and
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see what is brought down on my local machine as part of that.
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So I've got my my database.
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My compose file my doc rap and all of that has been pretty scaffolding and created for me.
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Hopefully that will finish starting soon for the other panel when I well I probably should have pulled
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this image I started stand again we've got issues but this will also give you sort of it's the first
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new places are putting looking at putting some of that running spaces back into the into the dock.
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Your item stays the same length running and whatnot.
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transform the back and look at test the stocks you go to a practitioner say the application designer.
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The idea is that where we're really trying to make it easier for people to get started.
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There is no temptation aligned to create your own application templates me to meet a container image.
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So if the source goes with it and then you add it to the yellow file in the back end of configuration
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which points to sort of a repository or new area application templates and those little picks up in
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the UI and hopefully that will make it easier for people to get started to get sort of things back in
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those initial projects.
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Yeah and I'm really excited about some of these enterprise features but because I think you know Docker
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last year was a year ago maybe on stage was talking about reaching the next 16 million developers.
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I think there was like some statistic about that right.
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That that there's at least that many that don't have Duggar and that the idea here is once you start
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digging into these templates and into application designer you start to see a lot of power around.
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If you've ever had to work in a large company where you've got multiple teams of developers and you
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so you probably end up with people that are making standard images and they're creating back in the
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often will create that standard around.
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are the official version you're supposed to run with the standard packages and these all these ads that
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are your team's builds those tend to be those base images right.
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But there's a lot more to that and there's there's environment variable settings there's custom code
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there's custom setups possibly for your editor and all of that can be thrown into these templates and
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then those.
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What's really neat is the templates can be stored on a registry.
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So if you had a corporate enterprise registry like DVR then you could store all these there and then
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developers are essentially able to get these updated templates centrally without any sort of you know
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without getting involved with the desktop deployment teams right like the people that would push the
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new software to your computers you don't have to involve those people at all.
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designer the gooey in front of that gives you the ability to spin up new apps very quickly without having
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to touch the command line essentially in the background what you're seeing here that's using Docker
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compose to spin all this up and then give you the logs all on the same screen so you can have that running
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you can jump to the command line if you have to but you don't you don't have to at all the time if you
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just want to jump in a development and get get started.
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So I think it's I'm excited for what you guys are going to do in the future with this because there's
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been a lot of attempts at gooses right for making Docker easer on the desktop and this is to me this
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one is the first real attempt at going into end all the way from the creation of templates that store
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not just you know a base image but all the other things you need with that application storing those
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in a registry having a gooey tool that is more manages more than one container.
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I think if those of you on the on the livestream if you've been around a while and you've seen the you've
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seen you if you remember what was it.
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What was the name of the old gooey years ago climatic right.
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Climatic was neat but it only dealt with one container at a time.
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to get multi container with composed templates and all the other stuff that you need with it.
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So where it later in the week we're going to have Docker app which is kind of the other you flip this
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coin over and this is the other side of that where you can take these templates in these apps and create
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that production documentation and yammer all that you need to deploy these apps and package it up and
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do the same thing push it through your registry use your registry as not just a place for images but
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for all more parts of your software distribution workflow.
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So it's pretty cool.
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some of the captains we've all been able to play with this stuff pretty early the version packs is really
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neat I think for organizations that are going to end up with many different clusters of container orchestration.
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going to end up with lots of them and you're gonna be all over the place and they're gonna be different
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versions and as much as we'd all love to say well isn't it true if you're running Docker and orchestration
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it shouldn't matter your versions well your tool versions shouldn't matter because most of it's backwards
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So the cool part with version packs is it basically like in five seconds you can jump from enterprise
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to to Dr. enterprise three or you can jump to the community Ed. if maybe you're running servers and
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production that are on the community edition you can jump between the versions of that and it does it
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So that actually makes more sense but that's very cool.
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So if being an incubator can you find one too dark one and I hate to see dark or so if I teach you the
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version collection and I'm may not be best struck if I to use two different versions I would then go
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for two and one or two or it would be like that all and you know so we're doing version packs all the
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previous versions I'm pretty sure I put a two to one version back somewhere and I should've loaded some
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more up about suddenly at least 2.0 version back.
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Be sure that you don't want that.
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as the bank saying the goal is to in theory these things shouldn't matter too much.
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particular with the engine version.
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So the goal is to give that option to our enterprise customers.
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Don't we been a little special surprise for those on the live audience that something that's not yet
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Not quite so we have put out a couple of blog posts about it.
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Congressman Walker quite closely with Microsoft around there w a salty face you don't know it's another
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acronym doubling its allies windows subsystem for Linux.
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The first version Microsoft is essentially try to emulate Linux kind of rolling back about windows kind
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of leaves me just without talking works.
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I know a few of you got it working but if it didn't necessarily get everything you needed to actually
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really base whole operation that's around it.
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IP tables that were there.
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So it was really hard for us to interface with.
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A couple months ago Microsoft announced windows subsystem links to you whether actually to be shipping
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links kernel of Windows.
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We've been working with Microsoft since day since they announced that to prep and see if we can't talk
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it I stopped working with W cell 2.
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Tomorrow we will be kicking off and sending out links to those who've signed up on day to dot dot dot
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We'll be sending out links and access to technical preview Docker desktop working w assaulting.
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You have to have the latest filter windows on the inside of false sprinkler to work all those people
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who are interested go inside.
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It's really cool.
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Some really cool improvements with it.
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As far as things like boot time we're down from my 45 seconds on Windows talking debate so about two
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seconds for things like BHP Symphony and we were playing around with and Page refreshes page refresh
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or current good desktop just where it says.
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Remember taking like say 400 milliseconds when using a lot of things spaces just feature Dr. salty talker.
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That same page refresh with the HP symphony is taking about 15 minutes I can was down for about 450
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So there's some places that are just a couple of the really cool things that are coming as part of it.
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So if you're interesting interests slide up and we'll get a copy out.
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Yeah.
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So that that you URL is beta that Dr. Dot Com and as has been the past for all the darker betas.
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And if you're I think like the cliff notes of that for me.
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This is basically a newer new version of Docker desktop for Windows.
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Windows only to take advantage of some new stuff coming in windows next year.
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And so this is an early tech preview that uses the tech preview of Windows.
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So I think some of the requirements are you have to be on the windows insider program and your windows
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version has to be on the fast track I believe.
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Right on Windows Insider he gets 18 9 3 2 or higher says Stefon from the Tucker Captain channel.
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You have to have w SL the windows subsystem for Linux NWSL to enabled inside that tech preview which
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is its own blog article probably you could find on Google and then you need to install that Ubuntu 18
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Basically the package the distro inside your w cell so if you're a fan of windows and you've tried w
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cell you know about all this and you would put ubuntu on there and then download this tech preview of
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Docker desktop for Windows.
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And I feel like the cliff notes here are way faster boot time of darker and way faster filesystem access
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write for large projects.
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Yeah and people use things like learning scripts you can reuse them like it's having now actual let
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come back and be able to access it.
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Like Dallas can.
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Well it's it's really cool if people hear and read between the links and windows.
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It's actually really cool to work with really nice to work with where side of me my team moves between
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lots of asses.
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It's so excited to play with it.
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Yeah I think in all the stuff that I've seen of it so far it's the closest we've seen to feeling like
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your native Linux on using Docker on Windows.
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It definitely feels like it's almost completely native and having that shell there and being able to
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have the files in there and just run your shell scripts instead of having to find a power shell script
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because you're on the different OS and it's you know the world isn't all one OS.
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So until that world exists this is like the best we've seen it.
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I think especially on the Windows side and I know that Mac people have enjoyed some of the benefits
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of the Mac OS just being similar to Linux and the Windows side is as had some of limitations but I feel
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like this is pretty great.